Outrunning Failures

Overcoming $250K Losses: Real Estate Lessons with Ajit Karani

• Vish Muni • Episode 17

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Today's guest is Ajit Karani.

Ajit has been a real estate investor for 7 years, acquiring and managing single-family, multifamily, land, industrial, and hospitality assets.

In 2022, he co-founded Massive Capital, a diversified commercial real estate company and syndicator. However, today his real estate efforts have shifted to development of industrial/flex space, allowing him to pursue his passion, which has been slowly revealed since 2016—to empower investors in themselves.

Challenging health conditions and autoimmune disease before the age of 40 prompted him to leave his W2, beginning a journey of self-empowerment and radical self-love.

This led to acts of courage in all areas of his life: business, personal, and health, ultimately freeing him of medicine and disease after 20 years.

In mid-2023, he created Live Your Legacy together with his former success coach, Karishma Ismail, to empower entrepreneurs to look within and show up authentically in their business, take the courageous and bold actions, and BE the legacy they desire today.

He is absolutely freakin’ blessed and grateful to live life intentionally and learn every day.

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>> Vish Muni:

Well, today we have a special guest, Ajith Krani. Right, Ajith, that's right. Ajith Karani from Houston, Texas. he's a serial entrepreneur with a technology background and, also real estate investor and a co founder of Live your legacy. He's got a lot more to that. This is just a tip of the iceberg. So with that, let me welcome Ajith to outstanding failures. Ajith, could you please tell us a little about you, your background.

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah. Thank you so much, Vish, for having me on the call today. Yeah, I started off, in it, believe it or not, for 17 years, before entering the real estate world back in 2016. And real, estate effectively has been my catalyst for growth in all areas of my entire life, from health to personal to business. Real, estate has been the foundation and the vehicle that has allowed me to experience, a life today that I could have never dreamt of when I was working back, my w two, which seems like an eternity ago.

>> Vish Muni:

So that was a fantastic. So what was the transition like? What made you transition from it to becoming an entrepreneur in real estate?

>> Ajith Karani:

Okay, so in one word, it was my health. So this was back in 2016. my health was poor. I was 39 years old, but I was acting like I was 79. I had multiple, autoimmune diseases, and it wasn't working. I had, there was a point where I had enough where I made a decision internally where I'm not going to do this anymore. And I needed to then, focus my intention on the inside. And in order to do that, I wanted to get rid of all of my work, everything that was happening in my life at the. At that moment. Let me just put it on pause so that I can go attend to me and figure out what the heck was going on with me. And for me, it just so happened that I joined a, real estate network back in 2016 because I wanted to buy a single family home, and I had no idea how I was going to do it. So after I quit my w two, I figured, okay, let me try. Let me just, go headfirst into the world of real estate and see what happens. And that was, eight years ago.

>> Vish Muni:

Wow. so during the last eight years you've been in real estate, so have, you had any challenges, or. I wouldn't say failures? I would say any challenging, investments which has made you a better investor?

>> Ajith Karani:

Absolutely. I became a multifamily investor back in 2017. On the passive side, and 2019 on the active side. And my, despite the playbook that I had that allowed me to evaluate deals, I found myself very, susceptible to my friends or word of mouth. So, if I heard, hey, invest in fill in the blank, and I knew that person already for years and I trusted that person, I would take that blind trust and invest with them without truly vetting them out the old fashioned way. And, with that, yeah, I've lost a significant amount of capital, over a quarter million dollars to date, with more potentially on the horizon. And, these were deals that I had invested in even as early as 20, 1720, 19. And I had that. I had that blind trust because I knew somebody, because I took their word for it. I jumped in headfirst because it sounded good. And you're a multifamily investor yourself, and you know exactly how you can take a profile and take your pencil or pen and change a couple of numbers in optimism, not out of being reckless, perhaps, but just out of being optimistic and make the numbers look wildly fantastic. And I, you know what? They look good. I trusted the person and therefore I jumped in.

>> Vish Muni:

Well, you're not alone in this race, ajith, so, to be honest, I also might be close to your numbers, what you're talking about, and, looks like we have a lot of parallels, because, I blindly invested, not blindly, I would say partly like, I got carried away by the numbers. And, hey, I know you, and I know you would not take me for a ride. And I just, it just took me m took me five minutes to decide to invest in them or not, because I've known these people for a long time. But little, did I know things could, turn around so badly and so drastically. And, which, otherwise, it's a big learning experience. we all have failed, I would say. it's a feedback, it's a strong feedback. but in other words, I realized investing is more like a marathon. It's not a sprint. And things could go wrong. You pause, you restrategize, and you get back in the race. You're not going to turn around and go back, but, you learn every step of the way. I mean, mistakes have happened for whatever reasons, but, toli is going to make all of us a better investors going forward. Right. So what is your asset class? And, why do you pick those asset classes? What are you working on.

>> Ajith Karani:

Today? I predominantly work in the industrial space, on new development projects. So I've decided to still passively invest in the multifamily world. But on, for, and, but for the active side, I love the industrial side, I love how the assets are formed. I love how quickly the buildings can go up, from the ground in far less time than the residential side. I like the idea that I'm building something that is inherently not pretty, not sexy. It doesn't attract, the world's attention to it, just inherently because, you know, building a facility for a plumber or for an electrician, or for industrial manufacturing doesn't carry the same torch and limelight as, let's say, housing does. And on the, on the residential multifamily side. So I've really, enjoyed this transition over the last year. And, so far, so good. I've got a couple of projects that are underway, one in New Braunfels and one in Houston for roughly one hundred k square feet each. So sizable projects that I get to learn how best to form the team, to take it down and make sure you've got the right players on the team to be able to be successful. And I'm learning, I'm learning along the way. my dad built a building back in 2010 just for himself, because he was an engineer. But of course, I didn't think of anything at the time. So it's kind of cool for me to kind of come back full, circle and do it for myself.

>> Vish Muni:

That's interesting. Your dad was an engineer, so he just took it up as a challenge just to, from the engineering point of view, he just want to see how things will turn out, or was it for himself?

>> Ajith Karani:

Oh, wow. he was an oil field manufacturer, so he needed the space himself to perform, his business activities, in this facility. So he took it upon himself to figure it out. So I got to see it go up.

>> Vish Muni:

So. So is that an extra set of eyes on the deal and what you're building? Is your dad an extra set of eyes on the industrial?

>> Ajith Karani:

Not so much anymore. He actually retired just like two years ago, and he's 80, 84 right now. He's. That ship has sailed.

>> Vish Muni:

All right, that's good. So that's good then. So I see you're also a co founder of live your legacy. What is that all about? Can you tell the audience a little? What is that, Liv, your legacy about?

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah. wow. So live your legacy is, a passion project, between myself and my life partner, my business partner, Karishma. And what we formed was a organization to effectively help investors at the time and help people, turn their focus back to the inside as opposed to everything else on the outside world. So it's so tempting to have our motivations for what we do. For example, be like, okay, I want to buy that Lamborghini. I want to have that private plane, and I want to live this lifestyle that I see flashing on me in social media, when the truth is, all of that stuff is just on the outside. And by looking within and operating your whole business and your whole life from your heart space, as opposed to your mind, there's just a, ah, beautiful level of peace that results. so that's our passion. Where now Karishma is branching off into focusing on women, and it appears that I'm going to be branching off and focusing on men and the individual challenges that we have and, trying, as entrepreneurs, trying to make our businesses work, trying to keep up with everybody else, trying to keep up with everybody posting. I closed on fill in the blank property and, removing all of that noise and coming within and valuing the magic that already lives inside of you and utilizing that magic, untapped magic, to be the base for your entire life. And then the beauty just unfolds on all level. it's why I don't have autoimmune disease anymore.

>> Vish Muni:

So do you think all this had to do something with, your passion and your mindset and the stress levels and.

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah, it's absolutely the mindset and how we approach our lives. Are you going to approach it from the perspective where everything I'm doing, what I'm doing right now for an outcome, for a result, for fill in the blank. And only when I achieve that fill in the blank will I be happy. And then I finally get there, and then I'm happy for like, five minutes, and then I'm like, okay, what's next? And then you put something else on the dartboard, and now you're spending all of your energy going for that and relying so much on the results and this future outcome that may or may not happen in order for you to be happy. So what we effectively do is just turn the tables.

>> Vish Muni:

So, in short, you got to live in the moment and pay attention to what you're doing right now. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>> Ajith Karani:

Absolutely. To be present. and the truth is, most of us don't know what the heck that means. I can easily say, hey, be present, and you go, okay, well, what the h*** does that really mean? You know?

>> Vish Muni:

Yeah, that is so true. Because. Because I can give you examples where we miss all the special moments, like what happens if you're not present.

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah.

>> Vish Muni:

Right. Like, you're. Like, you are a family man. You have children. You see your kids, take a walk. The first step. And imagine if we were not, attentive, if you're not in the moment, we would have missed catching, your baby, my baby. Taking that first step. Right. I mean, that may not mean anything to a lot of people, but, for you, it means the world. For me, it means the world. Right?

>> Ajith Karani:

Absolutely.

>> Vish Muni:

And you can't recreate these memories. So I tell people these are the things money can't buy. You can't borrow. You can't go on to YouTube and watch somebody else's things happening. And that is why that's what I tell people. It's very difficult to explain to people what is live in the moment. It's different for everybody. Right?

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah. You know, vish, I think we're all built on this idea of sacrifice. Like, I have to sacrifice in order to grow my business. I have to sacrifice this, this, this, and this, because that's what everybody else does. And without that level of sacrifice, I won't be successful. Ah. And we're here to break that myth wide open and allow this idea of presence to happen so well beyond kiddos first steps. But, even being present in the moment, to be able to look at a tree and be able to see the leaves on the tree and be like, wow, okay, that's actually there. That means I'm really here in this moment, now, today, here, as opposed to somewhere in my head, way out in the future, where then I'm not really here.

>> Vish Muni:

So do you think technology is a big distraction and,

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah. God, Facebook is my biggest, challenge, quite frankly, because as I want to be on it, the moment you jump on, it just sucks you in the. And not only does it suck you in, but it presents this facade of what life is really, really about. Because the influencers that you see huge on social media, all of a sudden now you compare yourself to them. Okay, well, I'm not them. And I want to be like them. I want to look like them, I want to act like them. Now, all of a sudden, I'm not enough as who I am.

>> Vish Muni:

So do you think that comparing, comparing to somebody else about their journey, why am I not there? Why I don't look and talk like that? Why I don't have the same toys? I mean, I feel it is. It is just a waste of time, and it takes away what you have yeah, but what is your take on that? I stopped comparing myself because everybody's journey is different. Everybody look and feel different, and it is my race, that's all. The end of the day.

>> Ajith Karani:

Exactly. It's absolutely your race. I think it's how we grow up. I think it's how we're hardwired from a very little boy or very little girl. And we grow up in such a way that we're always comparing ourselves to everybody else. Nobody told me to look within when I was ten or twelve or 15 or 17 or 20 or 25. Nobody ever talks about that. It's always comparing yourself and it's to other people. And if you don't get first place, you're nothing. Second place, what's a runner up? There's no value in being a runner up. It's, first place or nothing. So we are bred, we grow up, and we see and feel all of those things that until you are first place and until you are like this facade of what everybody else is like, then you are not happy, you are not successful. And it's hardwired. So it takes time to undo all of that where you can then see yourself and be present.

>> Vish Muni:

So do you think this mindset and being spiritual and being present in the moment has, made you a better investor?

>> Ajith Karani:

Absolutely. Why? Because it's me first before the deal.

>> Vish Muni:

Right?

>> Ajith Karani:

the deal doesn't dictate anything. It's, it's me first. And because of that, I've specifically designed my life around what is peaceful for me. So that means Ajit can't do all of the deals that he would have done five years ago. I wouldn't. I won't even try. It's not. It's not my intention to do everything, because I value my own time first, my own piece second. And just having those two things as my number one and my number two, it eliminates so many things that are just noise and distractions in terms of deals. So my life is simplified as a result.

>> Vish Muni:

Well, that is so true, Ajit, because not too many people value these two things and they're free for everybody. Time. Time is one thing. I mean, I can't plan your calendar, I can't schedule your time. And even if I schedule, it's up to you. How you spend that 30 minutes, I tell, let's meet for lunch. And how you spend that 30 minutes is up to you. You could meet me for lunch, but if you're on your phone all the time, if you're walking around, that is not. I can't plan that for you. Right. So it comes down to that and peace of mind. You can't do anything for other people. They need to. Like, it has to be within them. They need to figure out what is peace to them. Right, right. So these are so true. And, this is what sets you up for, to have a better day all the time. And tell me, how is life now? Because your transition from technology to being an entrepreneur was a lot different from a lot of other people. Now, has your health gotten any better when you did the transition, when you listened to your body and you made some internal changes?

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah, that's the understatement of, the. It's such an understatement. my entire life today is, so peaceful, so blissful compared to where it was before. So I am off medicine for the first time in 2019 years, fully. my gastroenterologist checked me out from the inside out saying, okay, I don't need to see you for three years. Go away. And, no, I'm not on medicine anymore. Any type of medicine. I don't take it anymore because my body doesn't need it. The moment that I turned within and started focusing on me, all of a sudden, my body said, okay, I'm going to work with you. And from ridiculous headaches that I had to autoimmune, disease in my gut to frozen shoulder, it's gone. It's in the past. And I attribute it to just focusing within. It wasn't an overnight miracle. It literally happened the day that I walked out of my w two and made the decision. It was a conscious decision. I'm going to focus on me. So one change led to the next change, led to the next change led to massive acceptance of who I am, massive acceptance of who I am and me being okay with that. And in that state of peace, it's like my body becomes okay with itself.

>> Vish Muni:

So that is, you come a long way, Ajit, so thanks. Thanks for sharing. And, in other words, so what is your. Why. Why do you get up every morning? And when you. Not all of us have the best of, spirits, it may get up, but, some will have to roll out. Some we just. We need to get up because we can't keep sleeping all day. But, some of us got things to catch up with.

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah.

>> Vish Muni:

So what. What gets you out of bed every morning? And are, you energetic? And what is your normal day like when you get up?

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah, you know, the truth is, I have the same days that that everybody else does. You know, where I look at the. The clock sometimes and say, you know what? I don't. I don't want to get up. I want to sleep in. I'm tired. So I'm not going to be one of those guys that say, you know,

you have to wake up at 05:

00 in the morning, and here's the regimen that you have to go about. What I will say is this, I do find my way out of bed. And part of my routine every morning, the first thing that I do before I start my work for the day is I write down ten gratitudes. So I have a gratitude journal. I write down. I used to speak them in my phone and thinking that I could get it done faster in, like, two minutes, as opposed to writing them down, because if I sit there and write it down, it takes me 15 to 20 minutes. And sometimes I'll just be honest. I'll sit down and be like, I'm not grateful for a d*** thing. And that's just me being honest.

>> Vish Muni:

Right, right.

>> Ajith Karani:

We have a d*** thing today, and then it takes me a lot longer to respond. And. Fine, fine, fine, fine. And I have to go back to the basics. I'm grateful for the roof that I have. I'm grateful for the running water. Yeah. And so I start my way like that, and then I, text somebody. I reach out to somebody and I tell them how grateful I am for that. And that's what gets me going in the morning.

>> Vish Muni:

So that's good. That's good. I mean, I'm sure we all need to practice it. Gratitude. Or at least writing down. I write down three things every morning, and, like you, I was thinking, probably speaking into it is a better option, but, mix and match. There's no one thing over another. So. So I just.

>> Ajith Karani:

It's. Whatever works.

>> Vish Muni:

Yeah, whatever works. So, as long as I can get the three things down, it's perfect.

>> Ajith Karani:

But.

>> Vish Muni:

Yeah, but. But there's one thing which is very consistent is, when we all get up in the morning, there's one thing I'm thankful for. The good night's sleep, what I had. And. And nothing. Nothing. Nothing serious happened. In other words, we are at peace. You have a house. You have a, running water, you have food to eat, and you have a house to stay. You have a place. You have a family.

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah.

>> Vish Muni:

In other words. Okay, so. But any of those things go a long way. If all your financial goals are met tomorrow, your financial freedom number, will you continue to be a real estate investor, or, will you be doing something else?

>> Ajith Karani:

Absolutely. Will I continue to be a real estate investor? Why? Because at my deepest core, here's what I love. I love connecting with people. That's what I yearn for on the inside. So my greatest fun that I have every single week is meeting a new investor sitting across from them, having a cup of coffee, where if we're talking for an hour, 45 minutes, we're not talking about real estate. We're just, I tend to be, I tend to say everything. So for me, talking about my divorce, who I am, who that, who that made me, and my whole life experience, I put that on a plate because I want the other person to feel comfortable, to share with me the same level of vulnerability, and I want them to be authentic, too. So that's what I love and that's what I love. That's been the best part about real estate investing for me wasn't the real estate, it was just being able to connect with people and learn who the h*** they are and connect. And if we were able to do business as a result, that's like the bonus that's the cherry on top is that now we get to do business together with somebody that I just shared my heart, too.

>> Vish Muni:

Well, that's a good blend of live your legacy and, leading the evolution of financial freedom through real estate investing. And you connecting with people is the best thing to do because I'm with you on that, 100% on that. One of my thing is if working on creating lasting memories is number one, number two is be in the moment. And relationships is everything, no matter what you do. And then there are people unhappy living in Hawaii also. People think that's a paradise, but there are people depressed in paradise. So you, you can't, you can't change people. It has to be within you.

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah.

>> Vish Muni:

And that is why I tell people, if you're not happy with what you're doing, that is very unlikely you're going to be happy with anything else. So, so that's the thing. Because for me, like you, real estate investing is a lifestyle for me because it touches upon relationships, traveling and educating people and, networking and travel. So I could just be myself. So nothing is going to change, even if I have a million dollars tomorrow. But I would, I might, probably, the one thing I might do is spend more time with the family. That's all so, other than that, everything would remain the same. So that's the thing. So when did you start, living your legacy? And, And what is your, And now you're telling that you and your partner are probably, looking at, You're looking at working more with the men, and your partner is working more with the women. So what is your game plan for that?

>> Ajith Karani:

It's still in the works. I'll say that, Karishma is farther along than I am, so she has a, she has a free call set up every Friday that she coined the untethered lioness. And because that's exactly who she is, and the name is one that is for women specifically. we went through this scenario the other day. It's like women tend to put, their kids followed by their husband, followed by fill in the blank, followed by fill in the blank, followed by fill in the blank All of those things have to be mentally okay for them to finally work on their business underneath it all and who they are underneath it all. Like, they are just last in place because they've got so much traditionally on their mind. There's so much guilt associated with, oh, my God, I need to do this for my kiddo, even if the kid is fine. It's like someone's, like. There's like a spinning in this spinning mind. I've got to do this, this, this, and this. So, one thing that she is passionate about is bringing women investors, entrepreneurs to the table and saying, you know what? It's okay to be you. How can we move past that guilt, that shame? Fill in the blank of being a bad mom, being a bad mom that every mom has, and how can we work with that? So that you can be the amazing entrepreneur and soul that you are. So she has a call set up, every Friday at noon. That's free. Where the goal is just to let's bring people together. Let's unite people together. Let's move them from guilt and the stuff that traps us, them inside, to a life of freedom from within.

>> Vish Muni:

Well, that is, interesting. I'm sure there are a lot of women might be looking forward for that call, because they can be themselves, they can connect with people, and they can understand each other's pain. Pain points right there. And that's, exciting. So what about, you, ajith? What is it? What's going on? Do you want to promote anything? Are you working on any new projects? Are you looking for investors? What is that?

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah. so, honestly, for me, my passion has been evolving into working with men. There's so many entrepreneurs out there, so many coaches out there, specifically working with, women. And it's like, okay, well, what about the dudes? Because you know what we do? We bottle everything up inside, and we don't tell a dang soul. We go about it all day long. We're out there doing business, doing fill in the blank. And then we go home, and your mouth is zipped up, and you just shove it down, shove it, shoving it down, until one day you burst, or you may burst into the future. You know, it doesn't have to be like that. Okay? And we can pick any vice that we have that allows us to make the pain just a little bit less. So that includes businessing. So many investors, so many, entrepreneurs that I've worked with, they use business as a drug.

>> Vish Muni:

Work late hours.

>> Ajith Karani:

Work late hours because I need to do this. Because I need to do this. And what they're doing is actually avoiding what's going on at home. They don't want to face their family.

>> Vish Muni:

Right?

>> Ajith Karani:

So whether it's business, whether it's drugs, whether it's alcohol. Hey, let's get one more drink. I need.

>> Vish Muni:

I just need one more drink.

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah. and then I'll be good. It's one thing. And we just. We just dump all this stuff inside of us, and there's no outlet, there's no place just to allow for that expansion to occur from within, to free ourselves and just be freaking brutally honest with. With us. With ourselves, like, what's going on? What's going on. And we all have it. We all pick our vice. So I want to create something that. That allows men to come together, whether it's an anonymity or not.

>> Vish Muni:

And so do you have a lot. Do you have weekly, meetups, or do you guys meet in person, or. How can. How can people join your calls?

>> Ajith Karani:

I can drop the link for Karishma's. Ah, call. My call is still in the works.

>> Vish Muni:

In the works. Okay.

>> Ajith Karani:

My call is actually in the works, but, I'll be happy to share it with you.

>> Vish Muni:

So, is your partner, Karishma, real estate investor also? Is she in real estate?

>> Ajith Karani:

Yeah, she's been a passive investor herself, predominantly in multifamily land development, multiple things. But no, she's. She's been a success coach for four years, for almost five years. So she's worked with hundreds of real estate investors, since the pandemic. And, No, that's what lights her up. She absolutely just,

>> Vish Muni:

Well, I would. I would love to have her as a guest on outrunning failures. Oh, yeah. Because what, this podcast is all about how you overcome your challenges and take them as a feedback, not as a failures. Because. Because, we are failing every single day. And if you're not trying, that itself is a failure. You ought to keep trying.

>> Ajith Karani:

So, you know what? I was thinking about that before we got on this call today. And so it's like, why is it not okay to fail? Because I learned. I'm learning that now, just to be honest with you, I'm learning that now where it's, not only is it okay to fail, but you need to fail as much as you can, literally. And it's like, okay, well, if I go back in the past and I think about my childhood, the message that was delivered to me is, effectively, you must succeed. And if you do not succeed, then you are a failure. And that's a negative thing. And, oh, by the way, if you don't succeed, this is me as a young kiddo, especially being of, you know, indian descent, you may not necessarily get the love that you're looking for. If you don't make an a on this test, on your report card, all a's, what happens? You get punished. And it's like from early childhood, there's this mindset of, if you don't perform, you don't get the love that you desire. So for me personally, it scares the crap out of me when I fail. I'm aware of it now, and I can move past it, but, for the longest time, no. It's like, I would do my best to avoid failing. And you know what happens when you avoid failing? You don't get anywhere because you're afraid to take the risk that you need. The fears just become so overwhelming because at the end of the day, at least in my case, there was no love attached to it. I couldn't love myself through it. And then. So that rewiring of, making it okay to fail for kiddos, especially today and all of us investors, just truly making it okay. Like, what are you going to do today? Fail is, I think just so important, right?

>> Vish Muni:

So, what I do is I do one challenging thing every single day.

>> Ajith Karani:

Cool.

>> Vish Muni:

If I fail, it's okay. There's nothing wrong with it. At least I tried, right? So that is what I do. But I need to start keeping a journal of what are the failures. That is my next thing. Along with the gratitude journal. I want to make a journal every single day. One thing. What? I'm trying something new, and before going to bed, I need to write down, what was the outcome? Did I fail or did I learn anything from that?

>> Ajith Karani:

So, yeah, then you can wake up the next day and be grateful for failing.

>> Vish Muni:

For failing. And what did I learn from that if I did not make an attempt? Like, if I did not make that cold call, if I did not call that manager, I would not have known about that deal. And, the deal is good or bad, it doesn't matter. At least you got feedback. At least you're working, you're operating outside your comfort zone. So that is more important for me. So that's good. So, Ajit, thank you for coming on out, running failures to the great having you on the show. And what is the. What is the best way for my audience to reach you?

>> Ajit Karani:

I would say the best way is through email. or just looking me up on, on Facebook and adding me as a friend, sending me a dm. I can drop my email address in the chat. or I can drop my phone number in the chat, too. Anybody that wants to connect, which is my favorite thing to do, reach out, I would love to connect with you.

>> Vish Muni:

All right, one. One more thing. Ajit, so sure. So remember, in the journey of investing and life, failures are just stepping stones to success, right? So keep out running failures and never, ever stop chasing your dreams. Thank you. Thank you, Ajit, for coming on the show